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		<title>By: Albert</title>
		<link>http://heroesinrehab.ca/blog/2009/08/09/albert-speaks-ive-been-holding-out-on-you-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-1552</link>
		<dc:creator>Albert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 01:37:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To answer Geezer&#039;s question, I was a fan of the NY Islanders growing up.  They were at top just around the time the Abert commercial was out the first time.  Sadly they have fallen hard;  Subsequently I left NY in the late 90&#039;s . . .  Coincidence?? hmmmm . . . .    Lately I have been liking the Flyers, they just need to push a little harder -

PapaLasagna - The commercial was out in &#039;84, again on and off through the second half of the 80&#039;s and once again for a bit in the 90&#039;s, so it did span some time.  I am not sure of it being on the cover of the catalog, but I do know there were ads in magazines that had pics from the commercial.  Unfortunately being disconnected from Canada in the winter gave me a limited view of where it was advertised up there.  If you find a catalog with it on the cover, let me know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To answer Geezer&#8217;s question, I was a fan of the NY Islanders growing up.  They were at top just around the time the Abert commercial was out the first time.  Sadly they have fallen hard;  Subsequently I left NY in the late 90&#8242;s . . .  Coincidence?? hmmmm . . . .    Lately I have been liking the Flyers, they just need to push a little harder -</p>
<p>PapaLasagna &#8211; The commercial was out in &#8217;84, again on and off through the second half of the 80&#8242;s and once again for a bit in the 90&#8242;s, so it did span some time.  I am not sure of it being on the cover of the catalog, but I do know there were ads in magazines that had pics from the commercial.  Unfortunately being disconnected from Canada in the winter gave me a limited view of where it was advertised up there.  If you find a catalog with it on the cover, let me know.</p>
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		<title>By: PapaLasagna</title>
		<link>http://heroesinrehab.ca/blog/2009/08/09/albert-speaks-ive-been-holding-out-on-you-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-1548</link>
		<dc:creator>PapaLasagna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 20:12:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@junior You can plug your ears and sing &quot;LALALALA&quot; if you don&#039;t want to hear it, but I&#039;m pretty sure where I think I saw it was on a Canadian Tire catalog. If there is a backlist of all of the old covers (I can&#039;t find one) then I would imagine it to be there... you&#039;ve got me totally interested in how the hell I know this, I think I&#039;m going to ask around with my friends and see if they can help me patch up some kind of explanation</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@junior You can plug your ears and sing &#8220;LALALALA&#8221; if you don&#8217;t want to hear it, but I&#8217;m pretty sure where I think I saw it was on a Canadian Tire catalog. If there is a backlist of all of the old covers (I can&#8217;t find one) then I would imagine it to be there&#8230; you&#8217;ve got me totally interested in how the hell I know this, I think I&#8217;m going to ask around with my friends and see if they can help me patch up some kind of explanation</p>
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		<title>By: junior</title>
		<link>http://heroesinrehab.ca/blog/2009/08/09/albert-speaks-ive-been-holding-out-on-you-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-1542</link>
		<dc:creator>junior</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 04:12:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Mike: Lol re: USC. Also, I am LOVING POLADROID!!!
@PapaLasagna: I think Bill is right, the quirkiness of the ad (including the almost universally noted fact that Albert&#039;s first name is on the back of his jersey) is a large part of what makes the ad memorable.  This ad &lt;i&gt;may&lt;/i&gt; have still been running in &#039;87.  Great, now I have another research project...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Mike: Lol re: USC. Also, I am LOVING POLADROID!!!<br />
@PapaLasagna: I think Bill is right, the quirkiness of the ad (including the almost universally noted fact that Albert&#8217;s first name is on the back of his jersey) is a large part of what makes the ad memorable.  This ad <i>may</i> have still been running in &#8217;87.  Great, now I have another research project&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: PapaLasagna</title>
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		<dc:creator>PapaLasagna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 23:26:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now that I&#039;m off the work internet access I watched the video and strangely it seems not too familiar. I think it was on the cover of a Canadian Tire catalog or something, because I was born in &#039;87 so I wouldn&#039;t have seen this on television. That being said, I remember laughing at the fact that the guy in the Crappy Tire ad had his first name on the back of his jersey. I wanna say I remember it seeing from around 1998-2001? Maybe it&#039;s all a daydream, but I swore I thought Canadian Tire referenced the commercial during that time.


p.s. &quot;Joff-a&quot;? I&#039;d never heard it pronounced anything other than &quot;Joe-fa&quot;. And speaking of Jofa, I&#039;m obliged to pass on it&#039;s meaning, according to urban dictionary: 

JOFA comes from the hockey equipment which has nice equipment but a bad helmet. Used to describe a girl, who has a nice body but an ugly face.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now that I&#8217;m off the work internet access I watched the video and strangely it seems not too familiar. I think it was on the cover of a Canadian Tire catalog or something, because I was born in &#8217;87 so I wouldn&#8217;t have seen this on television. That being said, I remember laughing at the fact that the guy in the Crappy Tire ad had his first name on the back of his jersey. I wanna say I remember it seeing from around 1998-2001? Maybe it&#8217;s all a daydream, but I swore I thought Canadian Tire referenced the commercial during that time.</p>
<p>p.s. &#8220;Joff-a&#8221;? I&#8217;d never heard it pronounced anything other than &#8220;Joe-fa&#8221;. And speaking of Jofa, I&#8217;m obliged to pass on it&#8217;s meaning, according to urban dictionary: </p>
<p>JOFA comes from the hockey equipment which has nice equipment but a bad helmet. Used to describe a girl, who has a nice body but an ugly face.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 21:59:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m just about old enough to remember the move to LA -- but was definitely around for the return to Oakland, as I was going to school over there by then.  It was as though they&#039;d never left, the silver-and-black explosion that ensued, despite the grumbling about Al Davis and the personal seat license malarkey (you would pay an annual fee in order to qualify to buy your season tickets).  There&#039;s any number of teams who, upon returning to their home towns would find the same love (although I suspect that the Colts and Ravens have pretty much burned those bridges) they were seeking with their new suitors.

Oakland threw a whole bunch of money at the old Coloseum to bring it up to standards; teams will go where the money is.  Uncle Gary needs to be convinced that it&#039;s in the league&#039;s best interests; while his goal has been to sell hockey in non-hockey markets (c.f. attempts to win a Cup with the chosen Sid, expansion into sunbelt cities), it&#039;s borne odd fruit.  It&#039;s as strange that there&#039;s no pro football in LA (outside of the odd claims for USC) as there are pro hockey teams in places without naturally frozen water.  The failure of hockey marketing comes not from needlessly obscure rules (any follower of American football minutiae would be able to pick up the game) or senseless violence (ditto NASCAR) but a failure to spark youth imaginations down here -- it&#039;s not mindless hero worship we need, necessarily, but an emphasis on the speed and beauty of the game.

Completely on a different tack, I wonder what the Albert photo would look like having &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.poladroid.net/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;gone through Poladroid&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m just about old enough to remember the move to LA &#8212; but was definitely around for the return to Oakland, as I was going to school over there by then.  It was as though they&#8217;d never left, the silver-and-black explosion that ensued, despite the grumbling about Al Davis and the personal seat license malarkey (you would pay an annual fee in order to qualify to buy your season tickets).  There&#8217;s any number of teams who, upon returning to their home towns would find the same love (although I suspect that the Colts and Ravens have pretty much burned those bridges) they were seeking with their new suitors.</p>
<p>Oakland threw a whole bunch of money at the old Coloseum to bring it up to standards; teams will go where the money is.  Uncle Gary needs to be convinced that it&#8217;s in the league&#8217;s best interests; while his goal has been to sell hockey in non-hockey markets (c.f. attempts to win a Cup with the chosen Sid, expansion into sunbelt cities), it&#8217;s borne odd fruit.  It&#8217;s as strange that there&#8217;s no pro football in LA (outside of the odd claims for USC) as there are pro hockey teams in places without naturally frozen water.  The failure of hockey marketing comes not from needlessly obscure rules (any follower of American football minutiae would be able to pick up the game) or senseless violence (ditto NASCAR) but a failure to spark youth imaginations down here &#8212; it&#8217;s not mindless hero worship we need, necessarily, but an emphasis on the speed and beauty of the game.</p>
<p>Completely on a different tack, I wonder what the Albert photo would look like having <a href="http://www.poladroid.net/" rel="nofollow">gone through Poladroid</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: junior</title>
		<link>http://heroesinrehab.ca/blog/2009/08/09/albert-speaks-ive-been-holding-out-on-you-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-1539</link>
		<dc:creator>junior</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 18:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@geezer:  I don&#039;t know if he&#039;s a fan of any particular team right now.  If I get another couple of questions, I&#039;ll pass them all along to Mr. Novinski &lt;i&gt;en masse&lt;/i&gt; and maybe he can then live out the balance of his days secure in the knowledge that I&#039;ll never bother him again.

Interesting coincidence about the &lt;i&gt;Raiders&lt;/i&gt; decision in the &#039;84 Sports Illustrated I linked to.  I know that case is definitely one that played a very large role in Judge Baum&#039;s ruling, (discussed earlier &lt; a href=&quot;http://heroesinrehab.ca/blog/2009/06/16/the-balsillie-nhl-coyotes-bankruptcy-ruling/&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;).  As for the criteria you mentioned, I&#039;m not so sure that all of the factors mentioned are an enormous slam dunk.  I think it&#039;s clear that the present management has dug the Coyote into a hole, but in terms of population base, and economic potential (setting aside, for the moment, the current disproportionate recessionary effects in Phoenix) and quality of facilities, the &#039;Yotes have an argument to make, one that would be bolstered by questions of &quot;location continuity&quot;.  Obviously, there&#039;s a massive cash cow in the southern Ontario hockey market waiting to be tapped (that&#039;s why Balsillie is going through all this costly grief), and the per capita number of hockey fans is astronomically higher here (I think they call that &quot;market penetration&quot;) but I&#039;m not one of those guys who says hockey could &lt;i&gt;never&lt;/i&gt; work in Phoenix.  But that&#039;s a rambling for another day, I guess...

@PapaLasagna: There was only one Albert commercial;  or, at least, only one each in English and French.  The one you remember is embedded in my &lt;a href=&quot;http://heroesinrehab.ca/blog/2009/04/26/the-albert-canadian-tire-ad/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;first post on the subject&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@geezer:  I don&#8217;t know if he&#8217;s a fan of any particular team right now.  If I get another couple of questions, I&#8217;ll pass them all along to Mr. Novinski <i>en masse</i> and maybe he can then live out the balance of his days secure in the knowledge that I&#8217;ll never bother him again.</p>
<p>Interesting coincidence about the <i>Raiders</i> decision in the &#8217;84 Sports Illustrated I linked to.  I know that case is definitely one that played a very large role in Judge Baum&#8217;s ruling, (discussed earlier < a href="http://heroesinrehab.ca/blog/2009/06/16/the-balsillie-nhl-coyotes-bankruptcy-ruling/">here).  As for the criteria you mentioned, I&#8217;m not so sure that all of the factors mentioned are an enormous slam dunk.  I think it&#8217;s clear that the present management has dug the Coyote into a hole, but in terms of population base, and economic potential (setting aside, for the moment, the current disproportionate recessionary effects in Phoenix) and quality of facilities, the &#8216;Yotes have an argument to make, one that would be bolstered by questions of &#8220;location continuity&#8221;.  Obviously, there&#8217;s a massive cash cow in the southern Ontario hockey market waiting to be tapped (that&#8217;s why Balsillie is going through all this costly grief), and the per capita number of hockey fans is astronomically higher here (I think they call that &#8220;market penetration&#8221;) but I&#8217;m not one of those guys who says hockey could <i>never</i> work in Phoenix.  But that&#8217;s a rambling for another day, I guess&#8230;</p>
<p>@PapaLasagna: There was only one Albert commercial;  or, at least, only one each in English and French.  The one you remember is embedded in my <a href="http://heroesinrehab.ca/blog/2009/04/26/the-albert-canadian-tire-ad/" rel="nofollow">first post on the subject</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: PapaLasagna</title>
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		<dc:creator>PapaLasagna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 17:43:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Haha wow, I&#039;m just old enough to remember a single &#039;Albert&#039; commerical (hockey one wear he was wearing Red/White).. this is totally cool to know such a backstory cause I thought it was just just a strange &#039;one-off&#039; commercial... Anyways, the original point of the comment was to link swap for my little piece of internet at dullskatesbrokentwigs.tumblr.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haha wow, I&#8217;m just old enough to remember a single &#8216;Albert&#8217; commerical (hockey one wear he was wearing Red/White).. this is totally cool to know such a backstory cause I thought it was just just a strange &#8216;one-off&#8217; commercial&#8230; Anyways, the original point of the comment was to link swap for my little piece of internet at dullskatesbrokentwigs.tumblr.com</p>
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		<title>By: geezer</title>
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		<dc:creator>geezer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 22:54:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting interview. Is he a fan of any hockey team now?

By the way, I found the link to the Sports Illustrated article particularly timely. Your link goes to page two of the article but I decided to check out what was on page one. Lo and behold there is a lead story about the US Supreme Court refusing to hear the appeal by the NFL of the movement of the Oakland team to Los Angeles by Al Davis.

Indeed, the article says &quot;The lower-court decision that the Supreme Court let stand last week doesn&#039;t prevent a professional league from having a say in franchise relocation; it merely holds that the NFL&#039;s specific rule that franchise moves be approved by a three-fourths vote of its 28 teams is unreasonable. The court implied that the league would be on more solid legal ground if it established objective guidelines governing relocation that took into account such factors as population, economic projections, quality of facilities, fan loyalty and &quot;location continuity.&quot;&quot;
Hmmm!  Mr Bettman and the NHL take note: Objective guidelines? Population, economics, fans, location continuity. Sounds like Hamilton might qualify under such criteria but Phoenix?...not so much.
What do you think?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting interview. Is he a fan of any hockey team now?</p>
<p>By the way, I found the link to the Sports Illustrated article particularly timely. Your link goes to page two of the article but I decided to check out what was on page one. Lo and behold there is a lead story about the US Supreme Court refusing to hear the appeal by the NFL of the movement of the Oakland team to Los Angeles by Al Davis.</p>
<p>Indeed, the article says &#8220;The lower-court decision that the Supreme Court let stand last week doesn&#8217;t prevent a professional league from having a say in franchise relocation; it merely holds that the NFL&#8217;s specific rule that franchise moves be approved by a three-fourths vote of its 28 teams is unreasonable. The court implied that the league would be on more solid legal ground if it established objective guidelines governing relocation that took into account such factors as population, economic projections, quality of facilities, fan loyalty and &#8220;location continuity.&#8221;"<br />
Hmmm!  Mr Bettman and the NHL take note: Objective guidelines? Population, economics, fans, location continuity. Sounds like Hamilton might qualify under such criteria but Phoenix?&#8230;not so much.<br />
What do you think?</p>
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